Upskilling the Next Generation of Talent with Emmanuel Trinity

angela_r_howard (00:02.033)

hi Emanuel welcome to the podcast it's great to have you on


emmanuel_trinity (00:05.54)

thank you so much for having me Angela it's a pleasure being here


angela_r_howard (00:10.613)

yes yes I am excited to talk to you about a few things and the first thing is just your story you know a lot of times on this podcast I think in so many ways we get to people's backgrounds and stories but I just want to ask it up front and also tell us what you do and what impact you're looking to make on the world


emmanuel_trinity (00:34.54)

super yeah I'm here representing Eroninted which is the social enterprise integrative enterprise that is working in the slums and underprivileged areas across your ganda we pick up young people from the slums give them the skies they need and then connect them to global opportunities and so but the way the company started really revolves around my story and how I grew up so I grew up in one of the worst slums


called Kosovo after the co in Europe and what happened was that my mom was abused at the age of seventeen so she gave birth to me and her parents refused to take on a child who didn't have a father at the same time a father denied thee the responsibility to raise me so my mom had to run away from all those from the village to go to the city to find a better life so that was


a very hard move and brave move for her because in the city you can only survive when you have money in the village you could you know have fruits you know you know dig and farm in the city is only surviving when you have money in your pocket so she didn't have any money but she came when she reached the city she ended up in the slums because that's where she could afford relatively cheap housing but Kasia was one of the worst places to be in at that time so that was nineteen in three or three months


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ended up there and  you know vowed to make my life better and do everything she could one of the things she had to do was to put me through school and that's the only way I could survive what the streets and the slums could offer me so my mom failed because it was very hard and she didn't have anyone she knows in a slum so until seven years had enjoyed school and


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that meant that the streets were now going to take me right and so that's what happened to my mom I ran out of home and into the streets and that's when life became different for me I was sleeping outside during the gang I was recruited and we used to do all sorts of bad stuff and at least you know one year joining the gang we lost so many members at the age of nine at least six of my members


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a group of twelve young boys some of them were killed and there was no way out our young leader could just recruit more young people so were of the life but we didn't have any way out and during that time we just did the same thing for four years until one event happened when our young leader was was killed so when he was killed the group disposed of and now that


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meant that no one could recruit more young people so every young person that was part of the group had to find a new life we went hiding on that night in the cold and that's when a group of missionaries that had come from Ryland had come to be the school for sweet children so as they were working around the slums they didn't focus and that same day one of the ladies that had worked and had experience with rescuing streets


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the children from the streets asked me one thing what's one thing that you can give you that you never go back on the streets and i think that's a question that started to change my life I knew what I wanted I wanted to put my hands on a computer so she gave me a computer and should say that if you come and join us at a crusade will give you a computer so realize okay for me to get this gift you have to also be


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creative so my friend and I realized okay if this person is going to give us a computer and it's going to give us some musical instrument I don't we perform for them so we teamed up and made a group called the Happy Boys and we went and danced for the missionaries and that's how things changed and they gave us the computers we give our lives to Christ and we left this


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Happy boys, I love that


emmanuel_trinity (05:04.2)

lamps and the streets like that on the same day they recruited us to join the local church and we started doing work for the local charge I started presenting and doing graphics and I also used the computer to train myself to become a designer I was using criteria online so I did that about six years and another big event happened for me when still coca cola had come to organize cola talent show in the slums where they could discover talent from the slums and they organize


it and I showed case the work that I had designed for them and they offered me a paid internship at one of their marketing agencies and that was my gateway outside the slums but as all these things happened I just wanted to paint a picture there was a series of events that happened that made sure that I could my chances of escaping the slums were increasing baa after all I got excused


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I did I was put back to school and I got an opportunity outside Sam so when I left the slums my life was different but the lives of my friends weren't changing my friends' lives were just drugs and crime most of them were ending up in jail and there was the hall most of them ending up in the grave so I started developing strangers of responsibility that if I was I'm one of the people who have survived all of this chaos maybe it's for a reason on


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I should do something about it and that inspired me to quit my six months in the township in four months then I went back to start Era United to rate from the year that I was born and era means the generation my generation my time here on earth and so I want to use this time here on earth to hope you know it was in gene the problems that are causing poverty


in Africa but also create jobs for millions of young people in my lifetime across Africa and so we started a company order and de two and today we've created over eighteen hundred skill jobs we have at least over six young people working for brands locally and internationally and we've got to start other social enterprises that are also creating jobs in the slums so yeah that's pretty much over my story and


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wow


emmanuel_trinity (07:34.9)

and the journey that I'm on to make lives in freke better


angela_r_howard (07:42.093)

wow that is my gosh I mean it's a fantastic story it is also you know a real reality check for me as I'm listening to it around the conditions that you were able to


angela_r_howard (08:04.233)

able to evolve from which is uh you know scary and I would love to hear more about kind of the social conditions in Africa because think about two things right the things that come to mind for me are one how do we fix these problems at the root so the situation that you were in with your mom where I know you mentioned she failed but she was you know kind of a product of her environment and what she was able to do and accomplish and you were able to transcend


that but many people weren't so help us just understand because I'm from the U.S. m other people are tuning in from many different countries and different social economic situations so help us just paint the picture of um kind of the social economic and educational environment within Africa or your region in particular


emmanuel_trinity (08:57.74)

yeah I think that's a very cautious question and it's very nice but yeah it all routes from the conditions that you know Africa has been portrayed as right many people know poverty many people know all these kinds of things but as you know anywhere in the world right now there issues any country america everywhere there issues but


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emmanuel_trinity (09:28.06)

I always believe in this thing which is called the sack of influence you know what you focus on whenever it is causing so the problem that we have in Africa that all our problems being focused on in the aspect of the problem know the opportunity so me I was this kid in the slums I had talent is smart and many other kids were smart but all the solutions are that were coming


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in our slums which were very poor slums what solutions were keeping us in the same situation in other words they were not giving us economic mobility social mobility is okay if these persons these people poor if my mama is working hard but all the programs that were coming in that community during that time were to give us food for six days right let's go and rub some food but I believe like if during that time


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my mom was given a loan to start a small business during that time I know there wasn't anything like that lean up eventually people took loans for poor people but my mom had what she needed because she had a pie when she was trying to sell chuckle and she was so interpretation but she didn't have the capital to start and do something big and so that's one of the things that we look at the problems in the way that we're not giving people they are bid


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it to stand on their own eventually have much the situation is too bad so for me, that's what I got on and then I going to realize that two courses that already says one of them is that brilliance is really distributed but opportunity is not so now that covers the aspect of I'm someone I'm I'm a young entrepreneur who are about to overcome all this stuff and be able to beat a company that has credit over ten red skill jobs


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yes


emmanuel_trinity (11:27.6)

and also employing over six people full time means the problem of that in my time wasn't that I wasn't brilliant but I would nearly lose all this talent if I didn't get the opportunities that were lined up for me as they happened and another quote is poverty elevation is not at the same as creating prosperity when you look at all the country that have developed America and all these countries the problems during that time there are also one poor but they funk


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on parity creation, they focused on things that are creating jobs changing the economies, and stuff like that, and for us in Africa, a most people know okay I can only send aid to Africa and that's why for us when I'm traveling around them say can you give us jobs because I want to put why are people poor people who because they don't have money in their pockets and how do we put money into people's pockets is through giving them jobs giving them work and stuff


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and that's how we can start to see social economic mobility and prosperity creation across the continent


angela_r_howard (12:38.173)

yeah I know that that's a really important free framing of what we're talking about and I think a lot of times people do lean on the charity part versus the sustainable regenerative opportunities that create and multiply prosperity which is what you're talking about and so I would love to hear more about the idea the model that you have for your business


and creating these jobs how does it work tell us a little bit more about the process and what the impact is


emmanuel_trinity (13:15.44)

yeah I was looking at how can we create jobs are scared you know, especially in the African context, and one of the things that in my industry of creative work the first thing I went on Google was how what is the market value of the outfitting industry and I did and I was like it was two hundred sixty million right to sixty million yes


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two hundred sixty billion wow okay


emmanuel_trinity (13:45.64)

only I had to such who has the biggest market share and it was India and I was like wow so India has over one hundred and fifty-something so one hundred billion something of that market share is money that is going to India every year no wonder why right now there a system of talent has improved over time because of that investment because of that look out for talent and I was


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I was like I made this which I was like you know even if we just take you thirty percent of that how much would that be so my go right now is to make you know promote Africa to become the next India why when you look at the landscape of talent and how things are roving also India is becoming expensive things that you know becoming expensive over that and when you look around where is the next talent pool for the world to tap into


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and the only virgin area is Africa right now Africa has the fastest growing economies we have the fastest growing population of young people you know by twenty-fifty at least will be the youngest continent on the wall and other continents the population to be planted so what does that mean that the the opportunities here but maybe people haven't seen it and the anent penetration the opportunities that are here


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I think this is why people should be looking for next as they went to China they went to India the next move is Africa and yes it is happening right we have talented young people right now most of our companies are working with the value they are getting is where beyond what they would have gotten in case they are you know outsourcing from India and also the price point because of the economies and how you know


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the star in Africa and so our model is simple we look out for companies who want to send work to Africa over to outsource and we right now resting for things we're interested in video editing were also seeing designing digital marketing and website development and development so those are the four pillars that we are pulling out to Africa right now and the pass is simple we've made it very were


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simple for those who are who are starting to offer unlimited creative subscriptions whereby you can subscribe and be getting several services as you go every month as you need them so it's a kind of different mode whereby if you don't want to hire an individual editor or graphic design ousted manager you can subscribe on a creative combo and then you could be getting whatever you need to grow and scale your business so that's kind of the mode that you've been doing but remember the profit from this work and now


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hoping to reinvest back into creating more talent and training young people through our program the elevate program so I believe if we can do this at care and at least have you know even if it's twenty percent of the market share of the global outsourcing industry I mean that would be millions of jobs created across Africa


angela_r_howard (17:07.513)

and I just love the connection back to your story right where you were handed that computer and you were given this opportunity and now you are creating this same opportunity with thousands hundreds of thousands at some point of others and I have to ask the question just because you know people may be thinking about the term out sore scene and especially in us right there is kind of this kind of situation of you know by America you know we want to do everything within our nation here on


so tell us more about kind of the ethical part of outsourcing how you're re-thinking the model and then also why and if you think that we should be thinking on a more global scale when it comes to some of these jobs


emmanuel_trinity (17:54.78)

yeah I mean two there are two solutions right now we are not looking at the skill of maybe taking out of the American jobs where l our mode is like more plugging mode whereby we hope you scare right you ready have your people in the house you don't want to may be higher more people on top of the one that you're currently doing so we first targeted the organizations that may be you know a mid-level and they just want


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external hope on top of what they already have so that that's to a company that armor fit very very where the other vision is a at the globe score because right now coved changed so many things right that things can be done everywhere and in the world and we also take at those people who do not have enough money to have people a full time in America right those companies that can't


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pay fifty or six thousand dollars for an editor for a year in America but they have a dream to start a business maybe they can act that work to Africa so it's an ethical thing it comes from a point of empathy and also equity where by you're trying to distribute opportunities so it's already happening you know if people I don't know I don't know from for my head the number of donations that i


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coming to Africa right if you can just channel them into work is the same thing you know already the heart and the desire to hope Africa is there but we just need a different way of doing it I think that's what would create the riper effect to see the real change happening in Africa most people are frustrated actually why the billions that have been channeled through charities haven't done the impact that's care that's the same problem is that the money is not trickling down in people's pocket but think


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emmanuel_trinity (19:54.88)

if you give work and someone does the job and the money goes into their pocket it goes into their family and it goes into the nearby community and that's how the community change most of the money that comes through programs are big organizations it goes through so many managements but jobs are the only ones that can create prosperity and scare I believe


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yeah and then that's that that that reframing that you mentioned which is more of a prosperity mindset versus poverty mindset set and so you know we're talking about this hopefully regenerative type of injection back into the economy from the ground up from a ground swell which I think is something that honestly I think we struggle with sometimes it's very easy to just throw money if you have it


the creating the opportunities creating the jobs and thinking about how that compounded over time can hopefully create some structure to maintain that prosperity that you talked about


emmanuel_trinity (21:00.38)

yeah


angela_r_howard (21:03.673)

well first of all you're doing great work and I know that you are using your talents your resources your energy to create more opportunities which is very much in line with this podcast specifically around the connection to work so I would love to hear a little bit more about the types of skills that you feel like you're building as a result of this within within your community


we talk about jobs right we're connecting jobs but this is also an opportunity to build skill and capability so what are some of the things that you're focused on as future-proof or to continue to build that structure


emmanuel_trinity (21:46.3)

yeah that's a very good one in our programs one of the most attended and most focused on lessons is what we call we designed program of course it's only a program of course it's something in the middle it's called a lifelong one so this is where we put most of our focus because everything is changing right from the development from the machines


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you know taking over from the eradication of so many jobs that will happen the only thing that will stay some of the soft skills that will be human and we focus on the stand but then on top of the soft skills empathy emotional intelligence and other things that creativity that will you know to stay for a longer time we also advocate for life long lines for people to be able to shift as soon as possible right and some of the


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hastened to shift towards the use of some of them are afraid about it but some of us are using it and it is you know saved us almost fully percent of the time on the things that should be spending time a lot of time on and so for those who adapt faster they will be able to stay relevant for a longer time and that's the cord for the twenty-first century for those who stayed over on the internet and to use such a media their voices


not visible as those who are there putting out content so that you know the lifelong Lana's program is one that we focus on that you know right now we should be calm life-long lanes because things are changing we don't know what's going to happen next we don't know how the full development of i is going to shift how things are done in the entire world so let's be ready to learn something new


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how it comes


angela_r_howard (23:49.233)

are you so with this program where you're and again you're kind of tackling both right you're upskilling future proofing skill sets and then also connecting organizations with this talent which I think is a great connection um what gap are you feeling what disparity are you feeling in Africa from an educational perspective because I heard your story about you know you wanting to go to school and that was a possibility for you help us understand


and what gaps you're filling there


emmanuel_trinity (24:22.7)

I'm filling the opportunity gap when we started a program we could give skills in the first two years of the program were doing a great job of giving people the skills and now we started tracking them okay how are they doing and then we realize that most of them didn't go any further than when we left them why they did not have the access to the jobs they don't have the access to a computer and so that


I'm going to explain a little bit more about the opportunity that two years serving as a nite realize that okay winning out to over another layer of hope on top of what we are doing so training enough right now is not enough right master at the foundation is running programs across Africa many people running programs but there is a problem with access to the opportunity the access to financing and so under what we've done


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emmanuel_trinity (25:22.04)

also have another social enterprise which is called Enter to Fund fund where now we find young people to buy their first camera to buy their first come to be able to start their freelancing career and so those are the gaps that were ranging with our program it's not mainly focused it's not the biggest what we are doing right now was known mainly on the training program because that with the people but now it's how many young people are we play


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got it


emmanuel_trinity (25:52.08)

and into how many young people have started a small business how many young people supported you know as they move on so that that gap in between because as I said if my life I didn't get the opportunities that I need I didn't get that opportunity to with coca cola pretty much I would still be in the slums that would break through maybe someone else who would have come and picked me out but that opportunity that's what changed the entire thing and I know many of them


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people who had talent that never made it out


angela_r_howard (26:27.433)

so if people want to get involved everyone's listening to this and thinking maybe they're you know wheels are turning on how they can get involved and support this focus on prosperity bridging the gap creating access creating opportunity how can the average person help elevate our cause here


emmanuel_trinity (26:47.62)

uh yeah definitely the first thing is to give us work number one think of the work you have in the organization and send it back to us here in Camp Uganda but also you could you know support the Elevate program anyway your skill sets you know we've got an you know amazing people have helped us the the people who helped us tram line our processes for us to be able to work well with our western clients


angela_r_howard (26:53.533)

it was


emmanuel_trinity (27:17.5)

in the U.S. and the U.K. k they are volunteers the people who helped us to line our messaging or our volunteers that we got from we make change so it's not about the money alone not about the work alone it's about the shift of the mindset to do something that is going to create real effects in Africa and so so many ways you can be part of us sharing our ward out there came volunteer with us send us work you know come help us you know check our business


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at the level refer as you know everything


angela_r_howard (27:52.413)

yes yes and then that's I think the right approach it's very easy to send money it is a little bit more intentional and takes some um you know some heart and some energy to you now think about this from a sustainability perspective um and so Emanuel I'm just so happy you were able to join us I think we could talk for a long time


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angela_r_howard (28:20.553)

um you're working on some of these issues but just to kind of close out here where can people find you so people know how to help now where can people find you and take the next step


emmanuel_trinity (28:31.38)

yeah the first step to go is our short website is double w do ur a ninety-two dot com if you go there you can see the vast projects that you can be involved in and for me, you can reach out to me on linked at manual unity maturity anywhere on social media you'll see me I'm on a mission to create in a skilled job in the next two years


angela_r_howard (28:57.253)

well Emanuel it was so great to have you on I hope many people who are listening contribute to this impact that you're making and thank you for sharing your time today


emmanuel_trinity (29:07.68)

thank you so much for having me Angela god bless



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