Seeking Joy From Employment with Joey Price

Oct 2

angela_r_howard (00:02.undefined)

Joe welcome to the podcast it's so great to have you on finally

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (00:06.403)

Angela, I've been waiting for this moment I'm so glad to be here glad I was worthy enough to come on the show and chat with your audience

angela_r_howard (00:10.undefined)

uh uh

angela_r_howard (00:15.62)

oh my gosh

stuff and stuff when we were chatting about this it was my honor so thank you for being here I just want to give a little bit of a background on you I'm going to let you give us your story but Joe is first and foremost one of my favorite h r influencers I've been following him for probably longer than he knows so you know certainly look to you for your knowledge in h r m you know you're always spinning some knowledge droppings

gems all the above but also you have your firm you have your company called Jump Star, which I know has been around before it was cool right like a decade or so ago you launched this business and so I'd love to hear more about that but tell us a little bit more about about you too

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (01:06.083)

yeah yeah again thanks so much for having me I feel like this conversation is just going to be two old friends who caught up after much overdue you know time away but I'm Joe I founded my company twelve years ago so that was two thousand eleven back before h r was was hot was in with sex was a thing some i argued it may not be yet still but

angela_r_howard (01:13.7)

m hm

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yeah

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joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (01:35.883)

it's still an important aspect of keeping this thing we call Earth moving forward and keeping people happy and excited about what they do and how they leave an impact on the world my origin story as an h r pro is probably similar to a lot of pros I mean i don't think anyone is in middle school or high school you know sitting in career day and it's like oh my god I can't wait to be pro right like right not yet

angela_r_howard (01:50.36)

angela_r_howard (02:04.16)

not yet not yet it's going to happen this year

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (02:05.923)

yes but you know life life happens and so I think in high school going into college I was an athlete a track athlete so really good relationship with my coach my coach was the health teacher athletic trainer and director at our school and is like Man you know what this guy left such a huge impact on my life and i love sports i kind of want to be an athletic trainer or sports medicine doctor i love helping people i love ah

Let me love seeing people reach the highest heights of performance that they can and so you know I went down that path I was an exercise science major and undergrad I went to the University of Maryland College Park so we call it kinesiology there because we're fancy um but somewhere around my junior year I realized like first of all chemistry is not my thing I'm not a fan I hate it so there's no way you're going to ask me to do bioorganic chemistry and all those other hoops you have to jump through in the med

angela_r_howard (02:52.34)

so fancy

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (03:05.983)

a field before you start practicing um and then I also realized like I don't want to be taking up athletes for the rest of my life I don't want to be forty-fifty-sixty out on the field away from a family I knew I want to travel help people win but someone said hey you should think about h r and I was like oh okay that's cool well what is that because yeah so because you know in college you don't really if you're working a job you don't me

angela_r_howard (03:20.06)

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interesting well yeah

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (03:35.923)

with h r you meet with whoever your boss is and you fill out the application to an interview and then your checks just mysteriously hit direct deposit right so I didn't know there was an inner work behind all of that but did know in college like my junior-senior year I was tempting in d c I would take like summer jobs in the city making twenty dollars an hour in the air conditioning when my friends were out at the amusement park making like seven fifty where in howianshare

angela_r_howard (03:40.06)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (04:06.203)

you know in the heat and so I was like oh yeah I like this corporate life we get paid more and it's air-conditioned so I was like how can I take my love of helping people and translate it into corporate life I didn't want to do numbers I didn't want to do technology I didn't want to do all those things on a day to day basis but I wanted some excitement I wanted some energy I wanted something fresh and new every day and yeah it was and so I didn't realize that the

angela_r_howard (04:15.4)

m hm

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (04:36.363)

but even now to this day, I'm grateful for that pivot because it allowed me to help me transition from helping people reach the highest heights of performance in the ball field and instead helping people reach the highest heights in corporate settings so I love doing that i had a progressive career in h r from h r assistant to h r director and now i said i wanted to start my own thing so we provide h r for small businesses and stuff

up we helped companies that don't have HR yet but have HR issues and so there's a lot of them and so our mission is just to go and help as many of them have great companies stay in business grow and make a difference in the world so that's my h r origin story

angela_r_howard (05:27.42)

love that c h r can be cool we just proved it today and yes I am looking forward to attending all of your career affairs Joe is to talk about h r because it's going to be I think a field that first of all we need innovation and desperately you know I don't consider myself an h r person but I've had a career in h r h the work that we do is with people so so ye tell us I think

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (05:29.343)

yes yes it's official

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yep

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hm yeah

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yeah

angela_r_howard (05:57.38)

already answered my question about your impact so thank you for that thank for weaving that in but you know given that you work in char you've been kind of steeped in the trends you know you've been probably supporting businesses through things like COVID the social unrest the injustice that we've been facing for decades and centuries but has kind of bubbled to the surface what are some of the things that you've seen with some of the small bit

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yeah

angela_r_howard (06:27.42)

Do you work with

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (06:28.683)

well so so I think if we can even just go back a little bit about you said this is the casual chill conversation m yeah so it's funny you mentioned kind of the ebbs and flows and cycles and seasons of performing HR and the different external factors that have kind of made us question why we do what we do at work and it has been interesting to

angela_r_howard (06:35.08)

h it is absolute get your coffee to grab a coffee cozy in

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (06:58.643)

Stewart these businesses through those changes I think in two thousand eleven that was the whole big time where people wanted to do more with less right we were coming out of the recession companies where we're trying to stay lean and so that meant and we always have this ethical lens right we never wanted to push people into the poor working culture we want to create a great working culture so whatever the flavor of the day is for corporate America we want to make sure it is also a great place for it for the people

angela_r_howard (07:08.86)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (07:28.883)

so back then it was you know do more with less right scale down one f t e is doing one and a half or two jobs right so so our goal back then was really how do you create policies and work for distribution and systems in place to help people manage work at scales I think another big thing that came up was various racial

total issues and concerns whether it be with police brutality or just the clashes that we still have to this day between different ethnicities and so that that has helped shift the crew ship I would say big changes like turning a crew ship it's like bit by bit shifted for people to realize like yes disparity still exist in America and it shows up in different ways every year unfortunately we celebrate

angela_r_howard (08:16.9)

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joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (08:28.963)

air quotes on celebrate because it's not a good thing recognized we recognize that the pay gaps right so women's international Day of Pay black women's international Day of Pay his pani women's international Day of pay and realizing that there's so much disparity still so now we're in this season of Stewart in companies through pay equity we're stewart in companies through diversity equity inclusion of belonging and making it more than a talking point or a checkpoint but something that

angela_r_howard (08:33.26)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (08:58.743)

integrated into their strategy and quite frankly hiring and keeping good people because as we know it's been a season where it's been the great resignation that's turned into the great regret let's turn into all these other buzzers and catchphrases that we've come up with along the way but all of that I guess to double down on like h r is exciting in h r is what keeps his a glue that keeps an organization together in

if it's a messy organization it's going be messy glue but if it's a nice run organization then it'll bond well for a reason so I hope that that kind of answers the question I know ever to look back a little bit but as far as impact goes for me as simple I want people more excited about Monday than they are about Friday and what I mean by that is getting excited about going to work getting excited about spending time eight hours a day some folks nine some

angela_r_howard (09:32.74)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (09:58.563)

ten hours a day at this place that you have to go there because it pays your bills but why can't you also enjoy it and why can't employers want to be enjoyable that's my main mission whether that shows up through the work of tech or small business consulting or being a thought leader in the space people should enjoy their jobs I think that's a tough thing to ask for it we re seek enjoyment and everything else why can't we seek enjoyment from

our employment that's my mission

angela_r_howard (10:32.26)

I love it and our missions are very well lined there when it comes to enriching the people you employ and how we do that so you mentioned h r tech which I think is another just if we're talking about looking forward but also we're just looking around currently at what's happening every space including h r you know one of the things I've had my eye open for is this thing called

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (10:40.603)

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angela_r_howard (11:02.56)

g p t and it's something that never heard of what's that um the reason why I'm so intrigued by it is because look one of the things we know about people in workplaces is usually people just want their leaders to get out of their way and to create better ways of doing work right that is one of the in addition to a lot of other things that enrich people within the workplace but I'm intrigued with chat g p t because it provides enough

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (11:03.663)

never heard of it

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angela_r_howard (11:32.36)

tool technology to potentially make people's jobs easier um into leverage I and all the things all the best things around I so first before I go down a rabbit hole you are probably better versed with how this impacts the world of HR and people at work so tell us a little bit about that

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (11:35.143)

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joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (11:49.743)

yeah okay so let's always start common ground and share definitions chat t p t is a a new tool that is open source which means it's free today they do have a paid plan they do have some other things for business but if you were on this pod and you're like I'm curious you could go to the chat website sign up for profile and start playing around what

angela_r_howard (11:58.72)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (12:19.483)

is it a search engine that actually will produce the queries or the searches that you're asking for not in a way that traditional search guides you to resources it guides you to the actual solution so you could ask the chatbot they write a rap song about social responsibility at work and make it in the theme

What's your favorite what's your favorite wrapper do you have a favorite

angela_r_howard (12:54.56)

ah I'm gonna gold school I feel like In't say t paine say, trainees

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (12:57.503)

go for it t pain all right so you can do it you can say hey create a h t pain-inspired wrap song for social responsibility at work podcast and in like fifteen seconds it will have this full three verses two choruses one hook and a bridge song with it just made by sourcing what exists out there in the world and then producing a um in answer and then answer that cat t produces it

typically, it's not glamourized like it's authentic's original is new so if that scares you or excites you both answers are true because it has far-reaching implications for not only just ran tech but recently they've created the back door channels are called a p I but the back channels for more apt to talk to the program and use the program

stop me if I get too technical I'm trying to keep it high level here trying to keep it thirty thousand feet right okay so recently

angela_r_howard (14:00.94)

no, I love it but to your point slack just implemented there they just integrated chat g b t I just saw that announcement

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (14:10.603)

yes yeah so so the bounds of using this tool are infinite or at least far-reaching um so for example the way that Slack might use it is different than books is different than Instagram is different than mit dot com is different and Monday dot com but all of these tools have value by connecting with this thing that can just create out of

angela_r_howard (14:31.96)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (14:40.343)

Blue, so I'll give you a pretty interesting stat people say that a tool is widely adopted if it reaches a million users right So Chat g b t broke the record for the fastest um reach of one million users Net Flix took three, and a half years Twitter took two years Spotify took five months Instagram took two and a half months chat

It took five days five days to reach a million users when Flix took three and a half years and everybody uses Netflix uh now you make sure the password but you're using it so yeah so people will argue and say oh this is a fad it's it's a trend this is just like the flavor of the week but no I want you to pay attention to chat t p t and how my impact

angela_r_howard (15:14.12)

top

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wow

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Rob says not more than people I share my password with

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (15:40.463)

you are in your job because it's here to stay it's integrating it's different than like Web Three or n f ts and even blockchain I think I people more integrating chat d p t than block chain so I'll try to get out of the weeds thanks for indulging me in that but that's kind of like a primer and I could go wherever you want to go after that

angela_r_howard (16:07.02)

yeah now you've provided a beautiful description everything made sense and I learned something um and I love this idea of it it's a way to search but it's providing a solution and kind of almost like a product because if I think about it but I've been using it for example you know you're using it to create a templet of something that you're trying to say and you take like the best pieces of it right so

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yep

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yep

angela_r_howard (16:36.28)

so so let me let me start here how does this impact work then and then how does this impact I guess h process in particular

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (16:47.103)

are you ready for a big answer I'll distill it so for the HR pro I think what I'll allow you to do is free your brain and the anxiety of having to create content where you become the editor and not the originator so whether it's sending an employer might ask hey how much p to do I have right if you want to craft

angela_r_howard (16:49.96)

yes okay

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joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (17:16.123)

That is a thoughtful answer could you say Hey Centopizio or create a Pizio response email for so unto who has so and so the number of hours left copy past sin right now you should always be editing what it's producing but it's going no free your time up to not have to create these email will scratch or the communications from scratch um it will also help you if you have questions that you might typically go to google for you might

angela_r_howard (17:32.46)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (17:46.923)

hey hey chat p th how is affecting the work for us today and it will give you a paragraph or two response um so it is both a resource and a tool that you could use to save time um now when people say save time they also go into like okay well do we need a department of five or can we do it

department of three or two and that's the scary part of it is that companies may be rare-imagining their work not just in the department but across all avenues of business I have a colleague who said you know historically I would keep three marketers on my team where heavy into copywriting was heaving into white papers but with that t p t I was able to do in fifteen minutes what I would ask someone to do in two weeks and so

they've shifted there they're hiring strategy from the three f t es to like one or one and a half and so it's a truly disruptive tool another danger of that though is like well where's this information going so you've got to think from a confidentiality standpoint who are you sharing this information with I was I was interviewed by a reporter and I was like you know if

angela_r_howard (18:47.36)

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joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (19:16.483)

If Wells Fargo has an h r pro that's like i need to write a layoff letter Right Who is seeing that on the other end and who might be tipped off that Wells Fargo might start doing layoffs right so it's a new tool there are prose there are challenges there's risk there's an opportunity but the long and short of it gets to know it starts using it and then figures out where the future will take it

angela_r_howard (19:28.34)

uh hm

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angela_r_howard (19:46.1)

yeah well you mentioned the dangerous side of it and i would love to know with these things i always look I'm looking at both sides you know like two things can be true at once like this is a very powerful tool and like i know i teach um graduate students and one of the first things i said the first day to class was be resourceful you were allowed to use chat g p t like it is a tool it's a reality just like google was for us ready when we were that was probably a concern at some point like well how are people going to get information

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yep

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yep

angela_r_howard (20:16.1)

and we're not going to use encyclopedias anymore some people are going to be listening to this and not even know what an encyclopedia is so yes it's a tool it's a reality of how we get information one of the things that concerns me the most around this idea of the information right so I know you and I were talking about this and that you know we know that I can be biased just like the humans that created the information and where the ai is harve harvest

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (20:41.383)

angela_r_howard (20:46.08)

in the information what are your thoughts on that just from a from a bias perspective let's say for example I said the g b t develop a job description for a role um and then I read through that and I realized like oh you know does this need a college degree or you know is it getting information that may cause me to reduce my pipeline of that position or use bias language so what are your thoughts on that

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (20:58.963)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (21:14.443)

certainly and this is where I always cautioned folks to always make sure you're the editor and not just copying and pasting you should be reviewing the output and I think you mentioned disparity from the job description standpoint and this is true because I think that a person who isn't trained in search whether it be boiling blin or whether it's figuring out how to drill

angela_r_howard (21:40.96)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (21:44.223)

down to get exactly what you want the average person is probably going to put a request into chat tpt and get a complex document that's maybe anywhere from twenty to forty percent what you want so you have to spend the human time and effort to get it from twenty to forty to a hundred right for them that's for the perfection is in the room like obviously, eighty is probably good for most people but right like eighty to a hundred you want

eighty to a hundred percent what you want and that's the type of things that you're going to be looking for from the context of a job description is like um how many years of experience is truly required what degrees are truly required what job duties do they say are incorporated in here and is that true or not because an account in one environment could be different than an account in another for example on an account in a

brick and mortar restaurant might be different than an accounting at a fully remote text art up ao you're asking this tool to create a job description but depending on how clear you are a front and then how much time you dedicate to editing the product you might not get the result that you want so it does require intentionality hand holding per review

maybe you review it and then share it with another colleague but yeah there there is the potential for disparity and lack of lack of ethics

angela_r_howard (23:28.58)

what is your vision of the organization's role and responsibility going to be I guess skill building around chat g p just like any other tool we introduce to an organization do you have any hypothesis on that

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (23:42.983)

i do i do i think for the past couple of years I've been saying every role is a tech role and i think that chat g p t just makes that all the more abundantly clear which is scary because some folks in the world make a lot of good money and some who don't but who may have flip phones and no access to the internet at home and may live in areas that are uh that

angela_r_howard (23:53.16)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (24:12.863)

like like like really good internet like why five um so the disparity can just continue to separate those who have and those who have not but it's going to require employers to have an ethical statement on their use of technology so whether that means their means for using technology as a means to evaluate employment changes with its hiring fire

in promotions uh ethical stand on how to use it with with responsibly retaining head count so you're not just like laying off a bunch of folks because the tool can do something and i think that it's going to require us to treat chat t p t or similar tools as a skill that everyone should learn how to how to utilize and utilize responsibly because if you can't utilize it put in

The ORLD is requiring it you become outdated pretty quickly so everyone i think should be paying attention to how to get the most out of search and then an ethical way of using that t pt

angela_r_howard (25:26.86)

awesome well gosh I mean we could probably dig deep into this topic and some of his uses but what I'm hearing is jet gpt is not a trend and is probably likely to stay it has massive massive impact and implications for work and how we work and how we're resourceful it's also kind of clear to me that you still

need human skill and discernment when it comes to chatbots just like any other technology it is a tool it's a piece of the pie it's not the end of all b also robots are not taking our jobs necessarily but organizations will be re-thinking what this means from a content perspective and how we can maybe elevate people's roles right I like to think about it like that because you talk about h r and I know a lot of

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angela_r_howard (26:26.86)

people want to do more strategic work and they have the ability and the capacity for that so a tool like this could really move forward industries or move forward fields of study or practice so that's exciting and then there are some potentially dangerous parts around if we're not managing it well like ethics and bias which we know is just pretty prominent in an overall so i love this conversation i feel like we need to like to check-in

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yeah yeah

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yeah

angela_r_howard (26:56.82)

be in a few months to see like it's probably going to be a million miles away from what we talked about today yes exactly

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (26:59.443)

shot a few days i mean to think of to think of where this has all evolved jin just a few short months so i think the public release of chat t p t was like November two thousand twenty two so it's still relatively a new tool so from November until March twenty three now we have business is can create their a s f

angela_r_howard (27:18.56)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (27:29.403)

it um even in February they had released their like twenty dollars a month paid plan um they're moving fast it's a moving train um we're going to have to pay attention to the government and rules and regulations and guidelines they recommend for the effective use of I in the workplace those conversations are actively happening but as we know government sometimes it's

angela_r_howard (27:43.96)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (27:59.723)

it plays catch up so we'll see what happens but yeah this thing is moving incredibly fast and chat pt represents just one aspect of the way that machine learning is happening have you seen this tool that somebody took Maria to carry the song and they did like this deep fake voice cover so they had whitney houstons

angela_r_howard (28:03.undefined)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (28:29.363)

and this mMariecarry song and so yeah there's that um there's a tool out now that has training so like it's a humanoid that appears real they look teal it's a real person that's just like c g or whatever and you can do microlearning with this pot so if you are skeptical about the

angela_r_howard (28:32.64)

no, I have not seen that

angela_r_howard (28:37.22)

wow

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (28:59.303)

roll that artificial intelligence is going to play in the workplace i would just say you know get your head out of the sand and look around because everything is changing everything we thought to be unundoable or impossible is now happening um what should have scared you was the two pok hologram at Coachella because that's when you knew that the world was up to something but yeah but bow you know deep fakes are going to be a thing right

angela_r_howard (29:20.42)

no, I remember that

we're like yeah something happening

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (29:29.583)

so you might even have fake clips of of prominent cos saying inappropriate things and then that driving stock prices down but the worst-case scenarios are very real at this point Deep fakes could get a lot of people in trouble so

angela_r_howard (29:51.28)

at some point, we'll have to have a legal expert join the podcast if you know anybody because I'm really curious about the legal implications of this you were talking about plagiarism before but you know intellectual property and how that works and you mentioned even the method of typing in the question where that goes and how that manifests so um definitely another conversation happening between you and I joe and then maybe we'll

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (29:57.063)

oh yeah

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angela_r_howard (30:21.undefined)

and a legal expert to kind of explore this a bit more

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (30:24.163)

yeah yeah

angela_r_howard (30:27.5)

love it well Joe I want to thank you so much for taking the time i just really appreciate your insights and your future is thinking around h you know i consider you um you know one of the most innovative HR folks who are out there you speaking on some of the things we should be thinking about I know your business supports organizations through this type of change so tell us a little bit about what you all are working on some of the things some of the ways that people can work with you and where to find you too

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (30:51.023)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (30:56.183)

yeah all right cool so, first of all, i like I just want to thank you for the space i know that somebody's listening or tuning in and now their heels are spinning Either How do I implement this at work or How do I learn this skill so i can be more valuable at work or oh my goodness the alarm bells are ringing we need to call our attorneys tomorrow right if any of that is true for you then Micha accomplish on our

angela_r_howard (31:10.66)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (31:26.003)

chat today but you can find me out on the interwebs Joe v Price h r m I'm committed to this thing so much that it's in my handles so Jo V Price R everywhere you can find a company at Jump Start dash r dot com so that's jump-start hyphen hr dot com that's if you want a part partner with us to learn more about our services read our blog catch our podcast

angela_r_howard (31:27.56)

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (31:56.883)

the podcast is called While We Were Working so you can go to our website and click the podcast button it'll take you there then another thing that we're doing we're offering dis test certified trainers who will offer dis coaching not just to you but to your whole team because it's not enough to learn about how you communicate but you want to learn how your team communicates as well and so if you're of interest we'll do a twenty-five percent discount for

jelas crew um we'll do promo code social primo code social all caps and we'll do twenty-five percent off if you are interested in our disc assessment for yourself and your team and we'll give Angela the link of where to buy it from but that's what we're doing was a minority business enterprise so we work with companies big and small and yeah again just thank you for this time

angela_r_howard (32:28.3)

awesome

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (32:56.023)

got to chill sip coffee catch up with the old friend and i know this won't be our last con for sure

angela_r_howard (33:00.5)

absolutely joy so appreciate you thank you for being thanks for the work that you do and I sure we'll be back soon

joey_price__he_him_____joeyvpricehr- (33:11.323)

all right thank you